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ruch wrote:how we can access these types of zinc?

here are the ingredients in smart mouth rinse which i have at home (you have to mix equal amounts of the 2 solutions together just before using,

Solution 1 Ingredients: Purified Water, Sodium Benzoate, Sodium Chlorite, Benzoic Acid.

Solution 2 Ingredients: Purified Water, Glycerin, Poloxamer 407, Propylene Glycol, Poloxamer 124, Zinc Chloride, Flavor, Sodium Benzoate, Benzoic Acid, Sodium Saccharin, Sodium Chloride, Benzyl Alcohol, D&C Yellow No. 10, FD&C Blue No. 1.
Hi ruch,

Several organic zinc salts, i.e. acetate, gluconate can be purchased on Amazon. These are also available as a tablet, zinc supplement found in grocery or drug stores in the vitamin section.

Cold-EEZE® lozenges contain zinc gluconate in a hard candy form.

The sodium chlorite in solution 1 of Smart Mouth appears to convert to chorine dioxide when mixed with solution 2 of Smart Mouth due to a decrease in pH. This is an antimicrobial oxidizing agent used to maintain sterility in municipal water systems, disinfecting food, etc., seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chlorite. It appears that combining the beaching of chorine dioxide with the antimcrobial activity of zinc equips Smarth Mouth with, at lease, two modes of action.


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ruch wrote:can you tell us how we can access these types of zinc? you mentioned to me above that it is not useful in a rinse format, or did i misinterpret your reply?
Yes zinc solution is more effective when its pure. But bad taste.
Commercial products contain sweetener, alcohols, detergents etc. For this reason they are less effective than pure zinc solution.

Solution 2 Ingredients: Purified Water, Glycerin, Poloxamer 407, Propylene Glycol, Poloxamer 124, Zinc Chloride, Flavor, Sodium Benzoate, Benzoic Acid, Sodium Saccharin, Sodium Chloride, Benzyl Alcohol, D&C Yellow No. 10, FD&C Blue No. 1. thanks!
Here sweeteners including saccharin, are converted to fenil alanin, o-sulfamoylbenzoic acid, ammonium carboxybenzene sulfonate, o-, p-toluenesulfonamide by bacteria. Their odors are not enjoyable. On the other hand There may be a link with bladder cancer (Sturgeon SR, 1994). Moreover, alcohols are converted to acet aldehydes in mouth. (Lachenmeier DW , 2009) This is reason of bad odor. Here, in this formulation, benzyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, is an alcohol. Possibly, other additives may turn to bad odororus volatiles. However, every hydrocarbon eventually turns to smaller hydrocarbons that may be gaseous. I did put neither swetener, nor alcohol nor addtive in a rinse formulation.
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searching wrote:Cold-EEZE® lozenges contain zinc gluconate in a hard candy form.
I wonder what is full chemical composition of its oral sprey?
I have visited http://www.coldeeze.com/ but its content is not available.
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aydinmur wrote:I wonder what is full chemical composition of its oral sprey?
I have visited http://www.coldeeze.com/ but its content is not available.
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Hello Dr.,

• Cold-EEZE® is a solid, hard candy, based lozenge, i.e. not a spray.
• The Material Safety Data Sheet is seen at: http://www.zeemedical.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/120.pdf
• It lists the active component as Zinc gluconate trihydrate at 36 weight %.
• The package label lists inactive ingredients as corn syrup, glycine, natural flavors, and sucrose, seen at: http://www.coldeeze.com/medical-info/#show_back_panel.
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Dr. - how can I get proof if I have BB? My father's girlfriend was swearing on the lives of her children (whom she loves more than anything) that it did not smell. She said she would date me if she were a lesbian woman. That I was perfect in every way. Why do people's fingers keep going to their nose when I talk? I need help. Thank you doctor.
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Regarding reports of the antimicrobial properties of certain metal ions, would it be effective to incorporate these into dental restoratives, e.g. cavity fillings, or inserts into the mouth, e.g. easily replaceable tabs placed on the inside surfaces of front teeth, out of view? The purpose would be to combat BB if other methods fail.

In the past, circa 1990, Kanebo, Inc. loaded silver, zinc, and/or copper onto tiny zeolite particles, then spun textile fibers containing these loaded-zeolites. The purpose was to prolong the freshness of sweaty clothing between laundering. A now abandoned patent is seen here.

Perhaps these dental inserts could be replaced when the potency diminishes after days, weeks, or months - or used only occasionally.

I believe a similar technology is/was used as anti-fouling paint on the submerged hulls of boats & ships, employing tin, or other materials which slowly leach outward.

Perhaps the abovementioned application has already been discussed.
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searching wrote: The package label lists inactive ingredients as corn syrup, glycine, natural flavors, and sucrose, seen at: http://www.coldeeze.com/medical-info/#show_back_panel.

In this composition, sucrose make caries on teeth, and makes bad odor.

Glycine is converted to ammonia and acetic acid (both molecules smell bad) by bacterial deaminases. This medicine seems not good for halitosis treatment.
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Dr, I would like to know what type is room-filling Nasal odour? And can the nasal odour come from dental problems/ hygiene?
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MrChips wrote:can the nasal odour come from dental problems/ hygiene?
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searching wrote:Regarding reports of the antimicrobial properties of certain metal ions, would it be effective to incorporate these into dental restoratives, e.g. cavity fillings, or inserts into the mouth, e.g. easily replaceable tabs placed on the inside surfaces of front teeth, out of view?
I dont remember such materials if any. You say few materials please.

Im interest with metal-odor interaction in mouth. Metals are not only antibacterial, but also they act as if de-odorant. Moreover, Eh potential is enhanced in anaerobic areas of mouth by inserting metals.
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Searching, I have a Samsung laptop and the keyboard has a "silver nano" antibacterial coating on each key.

Information on this:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Nano

I've always wondered how effective it might be to obtain a piece of this coated plastic and glue it to the inside of a tooth.
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searching wrote: In the past, circa 1990, Kanebo, Inc. loaded silver, zinc, and/or copper onto tiny zeolite particles, then spun textile fibers containing these loaded-zeolites. The purpose was to prolong the freshness of sweaty clothing between laundering. A now abandoned patent is seen here.
http://www.agizspreyi.com/nano.jpg

This patented product contains zeolite, nano silver and nano zinc together. It is much more effective than any other mouth wash products. It has no taste, no odor. It does not contain alcohol, sweetener or coloring material.
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Where can we buy this product from? Is it in the market, on the Internet? Thanks
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Hello Dr.,

As you mentioned earlier, is it possible to have a smell on the back of your tongue (such as sticking your finger to the back of your tongue) and not have bad breath? Thank you.
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my bb gets worse later in the day. sometimes, it is almost okay in the morning from what i can tell, after i eat and then brush and use a mouthwash (with zinc, chlorine dioxide or chlorhexidine). sometimes, it is even not too bad without the mouthwash for a few hours. then it gets worse as the day goes on, even if i brush and use mouthwash throughout the day (after meals or when i feel i could use it).. but it doesn't help much if it is later in the day. for example, i ate an apple, then brushed and rinsed with mouthwash and my bb was still there. about 15 min later, i tried rinsing again with mouthwash and it still didn't help.

why does bb get worse at the end of the day, no matter what i do to keep the mouth clean?
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