Bad Breath Halitosis Forum

fog wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:58 pm What type of environment (ph-level, foodstuffs, etc.) makes the "bad" (smelling) oral microbes thrive?
What type of environment (ph-level, foodstuffs, etc.) makes the "good" oral microbes thrive?

Is it possible after ending an oral probiotic treatment to get a permanent lasting change of the oral balance in favour of the good bacteria?

aydinmur wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:45 pm Friends
One of you has just asked about his/her halitosis with private message. I have written a good and simple test o him.
I would like to share this test with folk
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Hi __________
Many thanks you write me
it is difficult to say the cause or location of your halitosis according to evidences you referred.

First question is whether or not you have a halitosis. The second is: its reason, third: its location if any

When you just clearly feel halitosis , you should rinse your mouth with 20mM ZnCl2 solution for 30 sec. Then, check your halitosis. If your halitosis disappears for a few hours, this means your halitosis is Type 1. Otherwise it is Type 2-5

This simple test gives a lot of information about your halitosis if any
-M

aydinmur wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:45 pm Friends
One of you has just asked about his/her halitosis with private message. I have written a good and simple test o him.
I would like to share this test with folk
----- -copied, pasted ----------
Hi __________
Many thanks you write me
it is difficult to say the cause or location of your halitosis according to evidences you referred.

First question is whether or not you have a halitosis. The second is: its reason, third: its location if any

When you just clearly feel halitosis , you should rinse your mouth with 20mM ZnCl2 solution for 30 sec. Then, check your halitosis. If your halitosis disappears for a few hours, this means your halitosis is Type 1. Otherwise it is Type 2-5

This simple test gives a lot of information about your halitosis if any
-M

Geoffrey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:58 pm Hi Doctor Murat. Where can I get 20mM ZnCl2 solution? Or do I have to make it myself? Thanks1

winter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:10 pmMurat, you worked on halitosis research. Do you have colleagues from different specialities to help us?

aydinmur wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:41 pm

fog wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:58 pm What type of environment (ph-level, foodstuffs, etc.) makes the "bad" (smelling) oral microbes thrive?
What type of environment (ph-level, foodstuffs, etc.) makes the "good" oral microbes thrive?

Is it possible after ending an oral probiotic treatment to get a permanent lasting change of the oral balance in favour of the good bacteria?

Acids cause increasing the reduction potential in the oral environment. For this reason acidic pH, acid foods, tend to decrease Type 1 halitosis. Also metal containing foods, sulfur lover foods are tend to decrease Type 1 halitosis.

Balance in oral microbiota can not be stationary changed by external applications such as probiotics. Initial bacterial profile is immediately restored by microbial interactions when probiotics ceased.
- Murat

aydinmur wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:58 pm There are some redox reactions on mucosal surfaces in the mouth if type 1 halitsois present. (Kleinberg I, 2002)

- if Eh (reduction potential of biological environment) increases, then, type 1 halitosis decreases
- if pH becomes acid then Eh increases , thus, halitosis decreases.
in opposite:
- if pH becomes alkalin then halitosis increases

Chewing or swallowing Zinc containing tablets can not help
-Murat

janet wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:32 am can you please tell me what is your opinion on PATM SYNDROME?

Ramon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:00 pm snip...
is there perhaps a way to transform/restore our imbalance in our mouth permanently into a healthy, and balanced mouth flora just like a normal person?